Crystal and Later Archs

B-Kun · 12/15/14, 11:32 PM

I REALLY hope Crystal covers the later arcs past Black Moon. There were some awesome scenes and concepts that the anime didn't get into.

mythranger2 · 12/15/14, 11:33 PM

Such as? Asking because unfortunately I’ve never read the mang

B-Kun · 12/15/14, 11:41 PM

I don't wanna spoil it, but as said earlier, several arcs go in radically different directions between the anime and manga. The Dream arc is much less squicky and has more of an impending doom feel than SuperS, for example.

Primal Slayer · 12/15/14, 11:42 PM

I for one hope that they change what they do with the Inners from what they did with them in the manga for the 2nd arc. They became so useless.

Pink Warrior · 12/15/14, 11:44 PM

I want the spoilers! PM me in full details all about the Dream arc story.

Oceanblue · 12/15/14, 11:45 PM

he final story arc in the manga, Stars, is a beautiful work of art. The anime adaptation Sailor Stars didn't do it justice at all. It's a story about war, and about understanding the inherent duality of all things -- love and hatred, peace and war, happiness and sadness, life and death, and so on. These things must all exist together. It's about compassion for oneself and one's enemies, being able to forgive your enemies as well as being able to forgive yourself.

Some spoilers for the end of the Stars arc:

Eternal Sailor Moon travels to the center of the galaxy to fight Sailor Galaxia, who has been waging war on the galaxy and has already killed the Inners and Outers, along with Mamoru. Eventually, Sailor Moon ends up saving Galaxia from falling to her doom, since they're both Sailor Soldiers. Galaxia remarks that Sailor Moon is the soldier who embraces all things before she herself perishes. Later, Sailor Moon learns that Chaos, the source of her troubles over the years and all of the enemies she has fought, has merged with the Galaxy Cauldron, the source of all life and all stars in the galaxy.

She can destroy Chaos by destroying the Cauldron since they're now one, but Usagi remarks that she can't end all life, and that no matter what, life must go on. Chibi Chibi, who has been encouraging her to destroy the Cauldron, transforms into her true self: Sailor Cosmos, the ultimate form of Sailor Moon from a distant future. Sailor Moon flies into the Cauldron and merges with it, while Cosmos stays behind, explaining that when she was in this same position, she chose to keep the Cauldron and Chaos alive, and regretted it because of the wars she fought in the future. She chose to go back in time, to comfort her past self, and to influence her to make the right decision...but Cosmos remarks that Eternal Sailor Moon made the right decision all along, and that Usagi understands the "power to save everything and the power to lose everything." She says that Usagi is the true Sailor Cosmos, while she is a mere coward who ran from her destiny and tried to change it. But, learning she made the right choice all long (life and love), she returns to the future with renewed strength to fight Sailor Chaos.

It's kind of amazing.

mythranger2 · 12/15/14, 11:45 PM

Thank you Oceanblue! It sounds like the manga had a bit more gravitas and depth than we got in Stars, which I personally think is great.

Primal Slayer · 12/15/14, 11:46 PM

It's a lot of give and take, Galaxia and co. are better in the manga but my memory seems to remember the Outers having better roles in the anime then in the manga. And of course the Inner Senshi are just thrown away and dispatched of like they are newbies.

The Outers do have a much better death in the anime, esp Uranus/Neptune who get the best death as opposed to the manga where it is just generic.

mythranger2 · 12/15/14, 11:47 PM

…which sounds like an episode of Crystal.

And how about the Starlights? Are they a focus in the manga as they are in the anime?

Primal Slayer · 12/15/14, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mythranger

And how about the Starlights? Are they a focus in the manga as they are in the anime?

I don't think they are to the same extent, plus they never turn into males, but they don't last as long I believe in the manga. Still make it towards the end but not as far.

12/15/14, 11:32 PM	#1
B-Kun Putty Patroller Join Date: 05/12/12 Posts: 6	Crystal and Later Archs I REALLY hope Crystal covers the later arcs past Black Moon. There were some awesome scenes and concepts that the anime didn't get into.

12/15/14, 11:33 PM	#2
mythranger2 Putty Patroller Join Date: 05/03/00 Posts: 5	Re: Crystal and Later Archs Such as? Asking because unfortunately I’ve never read the mang

12/15/14, 11:41 PM	#3
B-Kun Putty Patroller Join Date: 05/12/12 Posts: 6	Re: Crystal and Later Archs I don't wanna spoil it, but as said earlier, several arcs go in radically different directions between the anime and manga. The Dream arc is much less squicky and has more of an impending doom feel than SuperS, for example.

12/15/14, 11:42 PM	#4
Primal Slayer Putty Patroller Join Date: 05/02/11 Posts: 7	Re: Crystal and Later Archs I for one hope that they change what they do with the Inners from what they did with them in the manga for the 2nd arc. They became so useless.

12/15/14, 11:44 PM	#5
Pink Warrior Putty Patroller Join Date: 04/30/11 Posts: 3	Re: Crystal and Later Archs I want the spoilers! PM me in full details all about the Dream arc story.

12/15/14, 11:45 PM	#6
Oceanblue Putty Patroller Join Date: 10/23/11 Posts: 7	Re: Crystal and Later Archs he final story arc in the manga, Stars, is a beautiful work of art. The anime adaptation Sailor Stars didn't do it justice at all. It's a story about war, and about understanding the inherent duality of all things -- love and hatred, peace and war, happiness and sadness, life and death, and so on. These things must all exist together. It's about compassion for oneself and one's enemies, being able to forgive your enemies as well as being able to forgive yourself. Some spoilers for the end of the Stars arc: Eternal Sailor Moon travels to the center of the galaxy to fight Sailor Galaxia, who has been waging war on the galaxy and has already killed the Inners and Outers, along with Mamoru. Eventually, Sailor Moon ends up saving Galaxia from falling to her doom, since they're both Sailor Soldiers. Galaxia remarks that Sailor Moon is the soldier who embraces all things before she herself perishes. Later, Sailor Moon learns that Chaos, the source of her troubles over the years and all of the enemies she has fought, has merged with the Galaxy Cauldron, the source of all life and all stars in the galaxy. She can destroy Chaos by destroying the Cauldron since they're now one, but Usagi remarks that she can't end all life, and that no matter what, life must go on. Chibi Chibi, who has been encouraging her to destroy the Cauldron, transforms into her true self: Sailor Cosmos, the ultimate form of Sailor Moon from a distant future. Sailor Moon flies into the Cauldron and merges with it, while Cosmos stays behind, explaining that when she was in this same position, she chose to keep the Cauldron and Chaos alive, and regretted it because of the wars she fought in the future. She chose to go back in time, to comfort her past self, and to influence her to make the right decision...but Cosmos remarks that Eternal Sailor Moon made the right decision all along, and that Usagi understands the "power to save everything and the power to lose everything." She says that Usagi is the true Sailor Cosmos, while she is a mere coward who ran from her destiny and tried to change it. But, learning she made the right choice all long (life and love), she returns to the future with renewed strength to fight Sailor Chaos. It's kind of amazing.

12/15/14, 11:45 PM	#7
mythranger2 Putty Patroller Join Date: 05/03/00 Posts: 5	Re: Crystal and Later Archs Thank you Oceanblue! It sounds like the manga had a bit more gravitas and depth than we got in Stars, which I personally think is great.

12/15/14, 11:46 PM	#8
Primal Slayer Putty Patroller Join Date: 05/02/11 Posts: 7	Re: Crystal and Later Archs It's a lot of give and take, Galaxia and co. are better in the manga but my memory seems to remember the Outers having better roles in the anime then in the manga. And of course the Inner Senshi are just thrown away and dispatched of like they are newbies. The Outers do have a much better death in the anime, esp Uranus/Neptune who get the best death as opposed to the manga where it is just generic.

12/15/14, 11:47 PM	#9
mythranger2 Putty Patroller Join Date: 05/03/00 Posts: 5	Re: Crystal and Later Archs …which sounds like an episode of Crystal. And how about the Starlights? Are they a focus in the manga as they are in the anime?