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Old 01/06/15, 07:31 AM   #31
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Scorpion Rain apparently happened, unexplained as it is.
This. People can hate Amit as much as they want, but his hand was official and it waved the events of a joke-turned-fan-edit into reality.

Bulk and Skull can easily be chalked up to them screwing up in France somehow and Stone being forced to beg for the police department to let them back in. Now there's a fan film I would love to see.
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Old 01/06/15, 07:31 AM   #32
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The Turbo powers come from Eltar. Justin said this in the finale. I figured Zordon has an Eltarian team or something. Same people who designed the Thunderzords for him.
At the very least they power source is on Eltar. The speed technology needed to power the Ghost Galleon and push through the dimensional barrier was totally Eltarian and it was used to create powers based on human vehicules. That's why they were depowered when Dark Specter took Eltar in the season finale, why the Phantom Ranger came from Eltar with the new Zords and why Zordon created robot rangers that could yield the Turbo powers.

Seriously, the turbo power's origin is really not something that annoys me.

The only question left would be why they didn't go back to the zeo powers after the movie, but maybe the blue zeo crystal couldn't bond with Justin?

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This. People can hate Amit as much as they want, but his hand was official and it waved the events of a joke-turned-fan-edit into reality.
As far as I'm concerned, whatever doesn't end up on TV and is never refered to ever again isn't canon. I don't care what Amit says... the Jason character becoming a cocky solitary biker who had run-ins with the law is not canon.
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Old 01/06/15, 07:31 AM   #33
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Scorpion Rain apparently happened, unexplained as it is.
I think a more accurate way to say it would be "Events directly based on 'Scorpion Rain' happened", rather than "Scorpion Rain" itself. SR is still a fanfic/fanfilm with no official form released or approved by the rights holders, so it can't be a part of the canon on its own.

Think of it like those crime scene reconstructions they have on TruTV: You're not watching the actual crime, but that's what the actual crime looked like.

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As far as I'm concerned, whatever doesn't end up on TV and is never refered to ever again isn't canon. I don't care what Amit says... the Jason character becoming a cocky solitary biker who had run-ins with the law is not canon.
Except the events of SR are explicitly (if vaguely) referenced in the show itself, which can't be said for the stupid "run-ins with the law" backstory. A battle in which Lord Zedd was defeated and Serpentera was left heavily damaged on the moon? That reference, combined with Amit's direct admission that he was referring to SR, is what makes it part of the continuity, because at that point Amit is just clarifying what the characters already said rather than saying something entirely new by himself.
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Old 01/06/15, 07:31 AM   #34
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I was specifically talking about Jason. Serpentera being left on the moon after a final fight with Lord Zedd is something that would make sense and would bridge the gap between Zeo and Turbo nicely.
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Old 01/06/15, 07:31 AM   #35
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Do people still take Amit's word at face value?
When it's directly supported by the show and concerning an episode that he wrote himself? Of course we do. Why wouldn't we?
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Old 01/06/15, 07:31 AM   #36
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When it's directly supported by the show and concerning an episode that he wrote himself? Of course we do. Why wouldn't we?
Should we also take Tzachor at face value when he says that every season is part of its own universe?
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Old 01/06/15, 07:31 AM   #37
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^ Why shouldn't we take Amit's word at face value? Because he killed any shreds of credibility he may have had by blindly endorsing Jonathan Tzachor's ridiculous viewpoint on Power Rangers continuity... in spite of said viewpoint being completely contradictory to what is actually established by the franchise's Canon.
What bearing does that have on his ability to clarify statements made by characters in "Forever Red", though? He wrote the episode. He understands it better than anyone possibly could (or at least he did at the time he wrote it). When his explanations don't run counter to anything previously presented in the show, what reason do we have to question them beyond "I don't like him"?

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Should we also take Tzachor at face value when he says that every season is part of its own universe?
For one thing, Tzachor has never written a single episode of PR. Second, that statement would also have bearings on seasons he was not involved with, so that makes it immediately suspect without an in-show justification. On that note: Third, nothing in the show has ever explicitly said that each team might occupy its own universe (quite the opposite, in fact).

By contrast, FR explicitly says that Lord Zedd was defeated and Serpentera was left in ruins on the moon, an event that occurred offscreen. Amit, when questioned about it, simply clarified that this was a reference to the events of the "Scorpion Rain" fan hoax. Considering that he was actually involved in the hoax back in the late 90s, we have no reason to believe he was being untruthful when he said that it inspired the backstory. So, his claim contradicts nothing from the show, it's supported by his own personal history, and it regards an episode that he himself wrote without infringing on anyone else's creative space. There's no logical reason not to take that at face value.
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Old 01/06/15, 07:31 AM   #38
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When his explanations don't run counter to anything previously presented in the show, what reason do we have to question them beyond "I don't like him"?
I've learned that no one needs a reason beyond that one.
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Old 01/06/15, 07:31 AM   #39
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Amit saying he was referencing a fan fic he wrote years earlier doesn't mean the fan fic is in the same continuity as the actual series. Otherwise any fan fic writer on here could end up writing for power rangers, write a vague line and suddenly that dark story they wrote ten years earlier where half the former rangers died in the legend war could be canon, and that's just not how it works.
Actually, that's pretty much how it works. When you become a writer for a show in an official capacity, and the higher-ups don't veto the concepts you put into your work, those concepts (if not the exact form of them embodied in the fan work) are canon until future writers overwrite them. Lord Zedd attacked the Earth between Zeo and Turbo. He was defeated and Serpentera crashed into the moon. That these irrefutably canonical events were directly based on a fan work is reason enough to give said fan work some level of credence in its other particulars, until such time (if any) that said events are depicted otherwise in an official work.

Your example is a strawman argument because it involves directly and blatantly contradicting what has been established in prior canon. Even if said fan did include a line with such an implication, that implication is invalid because what it implies is incapable of being true.
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Old 01/06/15, 07:31 AM   #40
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None of that was in the episode Forever Red. All we know is that Serpentera was left at the moon. For all we know Goldar was taking Scorpina on a date they ran out of gas and Seperentera crashed on the moon.
Word of God. It's canon until proven otherwise in-show.
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