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neo gen x 07/26/02 02:01 PM

Forever Red
 
A Gift For Everyone!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.toonzone.net/shows/images...foreverred.gif

Red Tulip Ranger 07/26/02 03:20 PM

COOOOOL! But am I the only one, who thinks it's a bit weird for the Quantum Ranger to be included in this team-up?

MiChaos 07/26/02 07:52 PM

He wears a Red costume, and is around due to Reinforcements from the future, it is PR, we allow strange things to happen...
I'm surprised to see Aquition Red there though, I'll be surprised, yet very very happy, if Aurico really has returned for this!


Edit: With Eric, we have 10 Red Rangers for the tenth aniversairy.

Red Tulip Ranger 07/27/02 07:38 AM

I heard it would take much longer before this episode would air then people originally thought (two or three eps after RftF) and it would be sometimes during october now??

MiChaos 07/27/02 02:40 PM

It's set and scheduled to be the first episode played on the ABC network after the great changearound ion a couple of weeks.

MiChaos 10/08/02 03:32 PM

Forever Red
 
For those who have seen/read the episode, what did you think?

(For those who haven't watched it, a transcript is available here).

MiChaos 10/08/02 03:39 PM

Wrong link above - sorry. Try this link.

And before you ask, the edit button isn't working - hence this new post.

ForeverBlue 10/10/02 10:50 AM

You can't edit your poll topics if that is why you say the edit button isn't working.

Anyways, Forever Red was great. I loved it.

MiChaos 10/12/02 11:38 AM

That would explain it. Thanks :)

MorphinTime 10/12/02 11:14 PM

For those of you who asked "how did Jason morph?", i have two possibilities:

1. When the red powers were transfered to Rocky, he was still in his suit, with morpher and coin. The powers were transfered to Rocky's suit and coin, but when that coin was destroyed, the powers went back to jason's coin, meaning that Zach and Trini have their powers too (even though Trini is dead in real life)

2. They weren't thinking about us die-hard fans who remember way back then, and just had him able to morph to have him back for the episode.

MiChaos 10/13/02 08:31 PM

A problem with theory 1, good ad it is. When Jason, Zach and Trini left the Command Center, they said Power Up, and a flash of light from where there coins were flashed and remained behind. I guess this was the last of their powers leaving them to go back to the Morphin Grid and back to the new rangers.
But I don;t know. I'm just guessing.

Personally, I stick with Theory 2.

And did anyone else notice the scale of the all new Serphanterra. Cool as the digital effects were, it was too small!!

MorphinTime 10/14/02 10:50 AM

Yah, but like I said, if he still had the coin when he left, even if it was powerless, it may have been reactivated when the other was destroyed. As for serpentera, it was way to small, that thing stood on Tor like it was a can of beans to us.

Cyberblack 10/14/02 02:17 PM

Forever Red
 
Did anyone notice that Jason and Tommy gained someweight? Even Andros is a little bigger than he used to be.

JZSpock 10/15/02 10:28 PM

Yeah I noticed that. Too bad time hasn't been good to Andros.
should Jason have been so cocky to Cole when they were fighting the remnant of the machine empire?

Bison Zord 10/18/02 04:00 PM

They probably reforeged the coin. They've had seven seasons to do so.

ChronoDefender2 11/02/02 05:14 PM

Red Powers
 
I've always assumed that the Z-Wave (Zordon's energy/life force) that was released when Andros killed him was so powerful that it not only turned evil good, but fully restored any and all powers that have been. Keep this in mind; When Zordon was alive he was able to temporarily restore Tommy's powers and that was using only a fraction of his life force. If the Z-Wave was powerful enough to turn all evil good within the majority of galaxies, then I think it was also able to restore all powers. This would explain why TJ was back too (because there's no mention of him getting powers back the way Justin did). So in theory, all powers are restored and could potentially goto anyone new. I remain confident that it was the Z-Wave; certain powers were lost for some time (Dino, Ninjetti, Turbo) some not used for some time (Zeo), but the items that HARNESSED the power still remained, they just were drained of energy (ie, the power coins still existed but couldn't do much, such as Tommy's Green coin given to Jason and Adam's original morpher). The one thing I don't understand is why Cole was saying Tommy is the greatest ranger. . .we all somewhat agree, BUT Tommy didn't do anything out of the ordinary in FR, if anything Cole did the most by destroying Serpentara; it definately should have been a 2-parter. Oh, and nice to see everyone again, I hope people will finally start posting again.

gdath 07/25/03 05:31 PM

Re: Red Powers
 
Question 4 U. Why was Rocky part of the Group of Red Rangers, if the power was transfered to him through that sword that the Rangers retrieved. It was great to see the Astro Megaship again. Was there an Alpha on board, or did alpha 6 stay on Mirinoi with the Galaxy Rangers?

CobraMorph20 11/15/03 02:09 AM

Re: Red Powers
 
The powers could have been rebuilt. Turbo, LR, NS & some day TF all had powers that were built.

PRangerX 10/19/14 12:37 PM

Re: Forever Red
 
I think Ranger fans have always read too much into Forever Red's plot holes. The special was supposed to be a special team up and it succeeded in that regard. With a half and hour there wasnt enough time for a lot of exposition. Plus it kinda makes the episode more legendary since fans can use their imagination to feel in gaps.

Aparently, Amit intended for Jason to have gotten his powers back from the evil Red Ranger in the comics. TJ got his powers back from Lightening Cruiser just like Justin did with Mountain Blaster. Which is pretty plausible. Amit wanted to have Rocky make a cameo as Tommy's butler but the actor couldnt be found at the time. The plan was to have a multiparter but it wasn't aloud in budget.

And really we know now that the Zeo Powers didnt becomr the Turbo Powers so it probably wasnt that hard for Tommy to get them back.

PRangerX 10/19/14 12:44 PM

Re: Forever Red
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Tulip Ranger (Post 29322)
I heard it would take much longer before this episode would air then people originally thought (two or three eps after RftF) and it would be sometimes during october now??

This was always an interesting decision. We do know that Amit did this on purpose since he considered Eric a Red Ranger.

It makes sense when you think about it since Time Fire was a reversed engineered version of Time Red in Timeranger. Plus the rivalery between Wes and Eric and their friendship makes it seem right. They needed a tenth Red for the team up anyway. And didnt want to use Ninja Rocky.

Zabitan 10/19/14 03:29 PM

Re: Forever Red
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PRangerX (Post 46428)
I think Ranger fans have always read too much into Forever Red's plot holes. The special was supposed to be a special team up and it succeeded in that regard. With a half and hour there wasnt enough time for a lot of exposition. Plus it kinda makes the episode more legendary since fans can use their imagination to feel in gaps.

Aparently, Amit intended for Jason to have gotten his powers back from the evil Red Ranger in the comics. TJ got his powers back from Lightening Cruiser just like Justin did with Mountain Blaster. Which is pretty plausible. Amit wanted to have Rocky make a cameo as Tommy's butler but the actor couldnt be found at the time. The plan was to have a multiparter but it wasn't aloud in budget.

And really we know now that the Zeo Powers didnt becomr the Turbo Powers so it probably wasnt that hard for Tommy to get them back.

I think it's just the fact that nitpicks add up after a while.

That plus it seems sometimes that the folks in charge of the actual professional production do things that we probably would get crap for if we were stereotypical loser nerds who live in their mom's basement writing fanfics.


Truth be told though I don't really care all that much about Forever Red's continuity issues or even Once a Ranger's as much as I do Super Megaforce's.


On topic you know I never really thought too much about why Jason, Tommy, and TJ had their powers back.


If I had made it I would have gone with the original idea of evil space priests trying to bring back Dark Spector, and having it where since Dark Spector is the physical embodiment of darkness, and evil it causes some weird flux in the balance of good, and evil that brings back Zordon since he's the embodiment of light, and good.


Also I would try to have other past villain groups besides just the Machine Empire like Zedd, and Rita, Space Pirates, Bansheera's demons, and mutant criminals from 3001 be represented.

PRangerX 10/19/14 05:17 PM

Re: Forever Red
 
Yeah the Spector Descipiles plots sounds interesting and would have made sense. Too bad the higher ups made Amit use the Beatleborgs suits instead.


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